Yeah, that's kind of what I meant. He becomes KH because he's special, he's not special because he's KH.
I'm not sure if Terra would have registered the bad bits. Love the boy to bits, but he's dull as a box of jello sometimes. (....awww! That is made out of adorable though. You made a keybearer!)
I guess that headcanon was sort of out of a desire to make losing a heart have some sort of lasting effect. It would be nice to have bomfing a heart into someone fix all the emotional baggage and personality disorders and ten years worth of being a horrible person with horrible habits. But it's too easy and too sweet for that to happen - and thankfully 3ds mostly confirmed that. I guess it boils down to "just because you have a heart again doesn't mean you know how to use it." Okay, clarification: I was under the impression that most of the restored!org was turned into Xehaclones, which is why there were actually 13 of them there. Is there confirmation otherwise?
Okay so I'm starting to have a bit of theory. (Though it goes directly against what I wrote in my thorkh thing, which is annoying). Dark and Light = Chaos and Order, creation and maintenance. (For Light, see basically all of Eraqus. Beautiful and sterile and dead.) Mickey has darkness because he has chaos, because he revels in the uncontrolled. (See old school Mickey) But he's found a way to balance the two, channel the darkness into creation and the light into maintaining the creations, never letting one over power the other.
...or something like that. Except if chaos is dark then pre mental break down Loki is *not* the dark brother...
Yeah, Terra is... he is dumb as a box of really really stupid bricks. So sweet and adorable, but so dumb. No wonder Xehanort only wanted him for his body. (RM's interpretation was more along the lines of "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE" which I think is also a fairly appropriate reaction.)
I think it's pretty clear that our main characters are walking talking exceptions to the rule in pretty much every case. And that does seem to be a thing, Lea's still very clearly Axel and Ienzo (from what little we see of him) is definitely not like his teensy wee human self. As for your question, I don't think they were? I mean, we know the original group sans Xigbar were still back at Radiant Garden, and they did not look well. I'm pretty sure that's why at the very end Lea ran off, to protect them, since given that Vexen/Even was still out cold and Lexaeus/Aleus was walking into walls... if anything I think some of the ones who kept the hoods up might be later additions to the org. Especially because I'm pretty sure that the originals are going to want to stab Xehanort in the face a lot, and that a restored!Marluxia and Larxene wouldn't be playing along as Xehaclones.
...that's pretty much the theory that I operate on with Mickey, yep. It's why Distopia!Mickey is the way he is, even if I haven't written the whole thing, and it's part of the reason he's so incredibly pissed at Xehanort, because here's a dude who gets it but fucks with it anyway basically for the lulz. It also plays into his relationship with Riku heavily, at least in Distopia--that Mickey's lying like a rug in CoM when he says he used to think darkness was bad, but he's doing it for a reason--because here's the perfect proof that he's right, and unlike with Terra he's actually in a position to make sure that the person who embodies that balance stays safe. (Also, something that's canon for my stories? Mickey was the one who introduced Sephiroth to Riku. For that same reason.)
Well, chaos is dark, but darkness is a necessary counterpart to light, and nobody's just one or the other except the Princesses--"the closer you get to the light, the greater your darkness becomes," remember? And given 3Ds, the one can turn into the other. So yeah, it's very easy to read Thor's darkness and Loki as basically pulling a Terra--neat and orderly and controlled until the breakdown.
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Date: 2012-11-29 04:43 am (UTC)I'm not sure if Terra would have registered the bad bits. Love the boy to bits, but he's dull as a box of jello sometimes. (....awww! That is made out of adorable though. You made a keybearer!)
I guess that headcanon was sort of out of a desire to make losing a heart have some sort of lasting effect. It would be nice to have bomfing a heart into someone fix all the emotional baggage and personality disorders and ten years worth of being a horrible person with horrible habits. But it's too easy and too sweet for that to happen - and thankfully 3ds mostly confirmed that. I guess it boils down to "just because you have a heart again doesn't mean you know how to use it." Okay, clarification: I was under the impression that most of the restored!org was turned into Xehaclones, which is why there were actually 13 of them there. Is there confirmation otherwise?
Okay so I'm starting to have a bit of theory. (Though it goes directly against what I wrote in my thorkh thing, which is annoying). Dark and Light = Chaos and Order, creation and maintenance. (For Light, see basically all of Eraqus. Beautiful and sterile and dead.) Mickey has darkness because he has chaos, because he revels in the uncontrolled. (See old school Mickey) But he's found a way to balance the two, channel the darkness into creation and the light into maintaining the creations, never letting one over power the other.
...or something like that. Except if chaos is dark then pre mental break down Loki is *not* the dark brother...
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Date: 2012-12-01 05:45 am (UTC)Yeah, Terra is... he is dumb as a box of really really stupid bricks. So sweet and adorable, but so dumb. No wonder Xehanort only wanted him for his body. (RM's interpretation was more along the lines of "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE" which I think is also a fairly appropriate reaction.)
I think it's pretty clear that our main characters are walking talking exceptions to the rule in pretty much every case. And that does seem to be a thing, Lea's still very clearly Axel and Ienzo (from what little we see of him) is definitely not like his teensy wee human self. As for your question, I don't think they were? I mean, we know the original group sans Xigbar were still back at Radiant Garden, and they did not look well. I'm pretty sure that's why at the very end Lea ran off, to protect them, since given that Vexen/Even was still out cold and Lexaeus/Aleus was walking into walls... if anything I think some of the ones who kept the hoods up might be later additions to the org. Especially because I'm pretty sure that the originals are going to want to stab Xehanort in the face a lot, and that a restored!Marluxia and Larxene wouldn't be playing along as Xehaclones.
...that's pretty much the theory that I operate on with Mickey, yep. It's why Distopia!Mickey is the way he is, even if I haven't written the whole thing, and it's part of the reason he's so incredibly pissed at Xehanort, because here's a dude who gets it but fucks with it anyway basically for the lulz. It also plays into his relationship with Riku heavily, at least in Distopia--that Mickey's lying like a rug in CoM when he says he used to think darkness was bad, but he's doing it for a reason--because here's the perfect proof that he's right, and unlike with Terra he's actually in a position to make sure that the person who embodies that balance stays safe. (Also, something that's canon for my stories? Mickey was the one who introduced Sephiroth to Riku. For that same reason.)
Well, chaos is dark, but darkness is a necessary counterpart to light, and nobody's just one or the other except the Princesses--"the closer you get to the light, the greater your darkness becomes," remember? And given 3Ds, the one can turn into the other. So yeah, it's very easy to read Thor's darkness and Loki as basically pulling a Terra--neat and orderly and controlled until the breakdown.