Ah - good point; something like the Harry Potter wizarding community works very nicely as a comparison - hereditary force users plus some spontaneous/deep buried bloodline kind of situations (some of the muggle born were completely spontaneous weren't they?).
Oh - Finn as a Lando relative would be very neat (I was a little disappointed he wasn't included - maybe next time. Also; I kept hearing Mon Mothma was in TFA but if so I completely missed her (double check though - I'm going to see it again tomorrow!))
I actually really like the idea of the Vader skull being fake. Both from a symbolic sense and accuracy; quite what the mask is made of is unclear, but I would be surprised if it would have survived Luke's pyre to be even as recognisable as it was. But from the other direction, that Snoake is so manipulative that he's given Ren a fake (unless it later turns out he went and retrieved it) to inspire him - and that the inspiration is formed up from Vader's behaviours prior to his moment of salvation really underscores the manipulation and callous behaviour. Like you said; that fits perfectly with Snoake using him not training him.
So... I suppose it's a question of just what Ben was told about his grandfather growing up - both by Han/Leia and Luke (they must have discussed it at some point) - did they emphasise the redemptive moment over everything else (Probably - not comfortable talking about all the terrible stuff Anakin did) and Ben accepts that for years. Then... does he read about the rest, or are there persistent rumours that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader and he hears those and starts finding out more and more and gets really into the idea of having that kind of fearful presence that Vader had? Questions, questions. Or is it just going to be like the training in Empire Strikes Back? The Dark Side is quicker and easier - Ben starts Jedi training but he's too impatient. Also - if Snoake is force sensitive could he give Ben visions of Anakin and Vader? How, when and why did these two meet... Questions for later installments!
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Date: 2015-12-29 12:13 pm (UTC)Oh - Finn as a Lando relative would be very neat (I was a little disappointed he wasn't included - maybe next time. Also; I kept hearing Mon Mothma was in TFA but if so I completely missed her (double check though - I'm going to see it again tomorrow!))
I actually really like the idea of the Vader skull being fake. Both from a symbolic sense and accuracy; quite what the mask is made of is unclear, but I would be surprised if it would have survived Luke's pyre to be even as recognisable as it was. But from the other direction, that Snoake is so manipulative that he's given Ren a fake (unless it later turns out he went and retrieved it) to inspire him - and that the inspiration is formed up from Vader's behaviours prior to his moment of salvation really underscores the manipulation and callous behaviour. Like you said; that fits perfectly with Snoake using him not training him.
So... I suppose it's a question of just what Ben was told about his grandfather growing up - both by Han/Leia and Luke (they must have discussed it at some point) - did they emphasise the redemptive moment over everything else (Probably - not comfortable talking about all the terrible stuff Anakin did) and Ben accepts that for years. Then... does he read about the rest, or are there persistent rumours that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader and he hears those and starts finding out more and more and gets really into the idea of having that kind of fearful presence that Vader had? Questions, questions. Or is it just going to be like the training in Empire Strikes Back? The Dark Side is quicker and easier - Ben starts Jedi training but he's too impatient. Also - if Snoake is force sensitive could he give Ben visions of Anakin and Vader? How, when and why did these two meet... Questions for later installments!
Roll on the next film though!